1 00:00:00,790 --> 00:00:07,320 [Music] 2 00:00:13,310 --> 00:00:09,310 [Applause] 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:13,320 I'm gonna talk about our just a very new 4 00:00:17,210 --> 00:00:15,450 project called Europa STI where we're 5 00:00:19,460 --> 00:00:17,220 investigating tethered and free space 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:19,470 communication techniques for sending 7 00:00:25,130 --> 00:00:21,330 signals through the ice for a nice ocean 8 00:00:27,260 --> 00:00:25,140 probe at Europa um so there was a study 9 00:00:30,620 --> 00:00:27,270 that was done about our Europe a tunnel 10 00:00:33,889 --> 00:00:30,630 bot mission concept by NASA folks and 11 00:00:37,220 --> 00:00:33,899 some other folks at Hopkins and Illinois 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:37,230 and Idaho National Laboratory and the 13 00:00:41,390 --> 00:00:38,850 technical objective for this type of 14 00:00:43,460 --> 00:00:41,400 mission is to achieve ice penetration 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:43,470 into the ocean on an ocean ice ocean 16 00:00:47,750 --> 00:00:45,330 world particularly we're looking at 17 00:00:48,710 --> 00:00:47,760 Europa and we needed to do this in about 18 00:00:50,990 --> 00:00:48,720 three years 19 00:00:53,210 --> 00:00:51,000 reach a depth we considered 20 20 00:00:56,420 --> 00:00:53,220 kilometers to be our achievable depth 21 00:00:58,100 --> 00:00:56,430 there in about three years and/or if we 22 00:01:00,140 --> 00:00:58,110 determined that there was a water pocket 23 00:01:02,180 --> 00:01:00,150 within the ice shell at about a four 24 00:01:05,420 --> 00:01:02,190 kilometer say depth that we could maybe 25 00:01:06,859 --> 00:01:05,430 determine had connection to the ocean so 26 00:01:09,140 --> 00:01:06,869 it's being fed by the ocean that might 27 00:01:11,989 --> 00:01:09,150 also be an objective a place that we 28 00:01:13,940 --> 00:01:11,999 could achieve our objectives which for 29 00:01:16,700 --> 00:01:13,950 science are to look for signs of life 30 00:01:18,529 --> 00:01:16,710 and so the science objectives closely 31 00:01:20,569 --> 00:01:18,539 followed those of the Europa SDT report 32 00:01:22,669 --> 00:01:20,579 where we would search for evidence of 33 00:01:24,859 --> 00:01:22,679 life at Europa we would assess the 34 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:24,869 habitability of Europa via these in situ 35 00:01:29,179 --> 00:01:26,490 techniques which are uniquely available 36 00:01:32,539 --> 00:01:29,189 for this concept for the tunnel bot and 37 00:01:35,059 --> 00:01:32,549 then characterize those properties also 38 00:01:35,989 --> 00:01:35,069 that were the environmental 39 00:01:39,730 --> 00:01:35,999 characteristics that would either 40 00:01:42,340 --> 00:01:39,740 support or maybe not so support our 41 00:01:45,529 --> 00:01:42,350 detection of biosignatures 42 00:01:48,429 --> 00:01:45,539 so here is the structure of Europa and 43 00:01:51,410 --> 00:01:48,439 as you can see it's a very interesting 44 00:01:52,969 --> 00:01:51,420 world we have as time mentioned that's 45 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:52,979 basically three layers that you wrote 46 00:01:57,620 --> 00:01:55,490 but we have the theater thick 47 00:02:00,019 --> 00:01:57,630 potentially thick ice layer at the top 48 00:02:01,910 --> 00:02:00,029 which is a brittle upper layer in a more 49 00:02:04,219 --> 00:02:01,920 ductile lower layer and then the ocean 50 00:02:06,379 --> 00:02:04,229 beneath and we don't really fully 51 00:02:07,969 --> 00:02:06,389 understand yet on what this structure is 52 00:02:09,889 --> 00:02:07,979 like how thick is that brittle layer 53 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:09,899 compared to the ductile layer how thick 54 00:02:15,590 --> 00:02:12,450 is the overall ice shell are there water 55 00:02:17,900 --> 00:02:15,600 pockets within the ice how briny are 56 00:02:20,550 --> 00:02:17,910 some of these layers and these are all 57 00:02:23,130 --> 00:02:20,560 challenges then for a potential mission 58 00:02:24,690 --> 00:02:23,140 this potential architecture of getting 59 00:02:27,510 --> 00:02:24,700 through the ice down to the ocean 60 00:02:29,460 --> 00:02:27,520 sampling on our way trying to understand 61 00:02:32,010 --> 00:02:29,470 this environment the most thermally and 62 00:02:34,470 --> 00:02:32,020 mechanically as we design this type of 63 00:02:36,210 --> 00:02:34,480 mission to achieve our goals so that our 64 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:36,220 project is I'm really focused on that 65 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:38,770 portion behind the tunnel bot so how do 66 00:02:42,660 --> 00:02:40,690 we transfer that information that very 67 00:02:45,540 --> 00:02:42,670 important information from this 68 00:02:48,030 --> 00:02:45,550 subsurface probe to the landed portion 69 00:02:51,090 --> 00:02:48,040 that then sends our fantastic science 70 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:51,100 data back to earth and so a couple 71 00:02:55,350 --> 00:02:53,290 strategies have been thought about where 72 00:02:58,050 --> 00:02:55,360 we're considering a communication tether 73 00:03:00,060 --> 00:02:58,060 and then also these repeaters on where 74 00:03:03,300 --> 00:03:00,070 you may be using a free three space type 75 00:03:05,490 --> 00:03:03,310 of communication to where because of 76 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:05,500 these challenges within a rope as ice 77 00:03:09,690 --> 00:03:07,810 shell the tether may not be the most 78 00:03:11,699 --> 00:03:09,700 robust to all of these challenges and so 79 00:03:14,610 --> 00:03:11,709 if you had a repeater that could 80 00:03:16,920 --> 00:03:14,620 potentially jump across that break in 81 00:03:19,050 --> 00:03:16,930 your tether you could continue to send 82 00:03:21,300 --> 00:03:19,060 your information up to the land landed 83 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:21,310 portion and so some of these challenges 84 00:03:25,039 --> 00:03:23,050 on we see evidence of this all over the 85 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:25,049 surface you wrote but many faults 86 00:03:29,610 --> 00:03:27,850 evidence of you know subsumption 87 00:03:31,770 --> 00:03:29,620 activity potentially where you have 88 00:03:34,380 --> 00:03:31,780 convergent boundaries on Pascha possibly 89 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:34,390 pushing material beneath the surface and 90 00:03:39,660 --> 00:03:36,970 then divergent boundaries strike-slip 91 00:03:42,449 --> 00:03:39,670 type of boundaries faults happening 92 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:42,459 there so can a tether you know that is 93 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:43,690 thin enough right like we also have to 94 00:03:47,610 --> 00:03:46,090 consider mass for these missions and is 95 00:03:50,220 --> 00:03:47,620 it thin enough to spool out for a whole 96 00:03:52,020 --> 00:03:50,230 20 kilometres while still being somewhat 97 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:52,030 robust to the potential activity within 98 00:03:57,330 --> 00:03:54,850 Europa's ice shell and you know if so or 99 00:04:00,539 --> 00:03:57,340 if not under what conditions are these 100 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:00,549 viable options if the tethers not you 101 00:04:03,780 --> 00:04:02,290 know doable in all the environments of 102 00:04:04,380 --> 00:04:03,790 europe as ice shell what other options 103 00:04:06,210 --> 00:04:04,390 you have 104 00:04:09,030 --> 00:04:06,220 could you use free space communications 105 00:04:11,069 --> 00:04:09,040 to provide alternative techniques and so 106 00:04:12,810 --> 00:04:11,079 we're exploring this with our our 107 00:04:14,580 --> 00:04:12,820 project we have folks from the Woods 108 00:04:18,630 --> 00:04:14,590 Hole Oceanographic Institute have been 109 00:04:21,180 --> 00:04:18,640 doing sub-option within the ocean sub 110 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:21,190 ice subsea ice type of exploration where 111 00:04:24,840 --> 00:04:22,690 they have been using tethers for their 112 00:04:26,460 --> 00:04:24,850 submersibles for some years so we're 113 00:04:27,510 --> 00:04:26,470 starting out with these types of tethers 114 00:04:30,089 --> 00:04:27,520 that have been proven in these 115 00:04:32,190 --> 00:04:30,099 environments which allow on the 116 00:04:33,220 --> 00:04:32,200 submersibles to move around sort of 117 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:33,230 independent of 118 00:04:36,790 --> 00:04:35,210 the ship is located it can move around 119 00:04:37,990 --> 00:04:36,800 and do exploration of the seafloor and 120 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:38,000 find those really interesting 121 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:39,530 hydrothermal vents that we know are 122 00:04:42,580 --> 00:04:41,090 happening there and so we're starting 123 00:04:45,070 --> 00:04:42,590 with those tethers on we have 124 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:45,080 particularly picked out four types of 125 00:04:48,970 --> 00:04:47,450 tethers here that we will arm explore 126 00:04:50,770 --> 00:04:48,980 for their robustness particularly to 127 00:04:52,330 --> 00:04:50,780 shear motion as we expect there to be 128 00:04:55,420 --> 00:04:52,340 that to be happening that I'm at the 129 00:04:59,530 --> 00:04:55,430 faults and we're gonna explore some 130 00:05:01,330 --> 00:04:59,540 tethers that are more armored for to be 131 00:05:02,860 --> 00:05:01,340 potentially robust and doing the 132 00:05:05,710 --> 00:05:02,870 comparison then for how heavy they are 133 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:05,720 and how you know much that would require 134 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:07,730 four masts for a spaceflight and we're 135 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:11,170 also looking at thinner copper ribbons 136 00:05:15,010 --> 00:05:12,890 potentially they're low-temperature 137 00:05:17,170 --> 00:05:15,020 ductility may prolong their survival in 138 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:17,180 these environments and they're also they 139 00:05:20,830 --> 00:05:18,170 also have the potential that we could 140 00:05:22,090 --> 00:05:20,840 maybe heat them and that would have 141 00:05:25,060 --> 00:05:22,100 relieved some of the stress that may be 142 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:25,070 acting upon them in the ice shell and so 143 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:26,210 how are we going to do this well first 144 00:05:30,490 --> 00:05:28,010 we we want to think a lot about the ice 145 00:05:32,890 --> 00:05:30,500 that they're going to be inside of and 146 00:05:35,140 --> 00:05:32,900 and and really explore those parameters 147 00:05:37,510 --> 00:05:35,150 I'm thinking about grain size porosity 148 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:37,520 and also potential impurities within the 149 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:39,050 ice both composition different 150 00:05:43,540 --> 00:05:41,810 compositions as well as brines you know 151 00:05:45,790 --> 00:05:43,550 different amounts of brines and these 152 00:05:47,170 --> 00:05:45,800 compositions and incorporate those into 153 00:05:48,790 --> 00:05:47,180 the ice that we built so that we can 154 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:48,800 really get a good understanding of how 155 00:05:54,220 --> 00:05:51,530 the ice mechanics changes with those 156 00:05:56,830 --> 00:05:54,230 changes in composition thinking about 157 00:05:59,020 --> 00:05:56,840 where the ice grain boundaries and those 158 00:06:00,820 --> 00:05:59,030 those impurities happen within between 159 00:06:02,950 --> 00:06:00,830 the grain boundaries and how that 160 00:06:04,870 --> 00:06:02,960 affects just the loads that are placed 161 00:06:07,990 --> 00:06:04,880 on the ice and then subsequently the 162 00:06:09,580 --> 00:06:08,000 tether you know how that affects the the 163 00:06:12,910 --> 00:06:09,590 transfer of the loads to the tether and 164 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:12,920 how it just all behaves together and of 165 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:15,170 course we picked out these certain 166 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:17,570 impurities and and things from 167 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:19,130 observations that have been done of 168 00:06:25,570 --> 00:06:22,610 Europa finding both on hydro of sulfuric 169 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:25,580 acid water Frost and hydrated salts 170 00:06:30,790 --> 00:06:28,130 potentially from the ice the ocean and 171 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:30,800 rock interactions that's happening um so 172 00:06:35,070 --> 00:06:32,930 here's the really cool testing apparatus 173 00:06:37,710 --> 00:06:35,080 pun intended that they had 174 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:37,720 at a lamont-doherty Earth Observatory so 175 00:06:40,559 --> 00:06:39,250 we're again pairing with Woods Hole 176 00:06:41,939 --> 00:06:40,569 Oceanographic Institute with their 177 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:41,949 tethers we're freezing their tethers 178 00:06:46,559 --> 00:06:44,110 into these ice blocks and then this this 179 00:06:48,210 --> 00:06:46,569 apparatus is loading apparatus can place 180 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:48,220 the loads the shearing loads that we 181 00:06:53,939 --> 00:06:50,530 want to explore on our tethers and this 182 00:06:56,730 --> 00:06:53,949 is on the testing you know to our test 183 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:56,740 setup is based on the concrete so they 184 00:07:00,300 --> 00:06:58,330 do the same kind of tests for concrete 185 00:07:01,619 --> 00:07:00,310 where they have the rebars going through 186 00:07:03,059 --> 00:07:01,629 the concrete and they do these shearing 187 00:07:04,649 --> 00:07:03,069 tests to understand their their 188 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:04,659 mechanical strengths so we're going to 189 00:07:08,219 --> 00:07:06,490 doing very similar tests I'm exploring 190 00:07:10,709 --> 00:07:08,229 temperatures and then the velocities of 191 00:07:15,089 --> 00:07:10,719 these like potential strike-slip like 192 00:07:17,700 --> 00:07:15,099 fault shearing armloads and then as we 193 00:07:19,140 --> 00:07:17,710 move forward past this so again this is 194 00:07:21,899 --> 00:07:19,150 just some some of the work we've only 195 00:07:23,399 --> 00:07:21,909 done very initially past this we want to 196 00:07:25,290 --> 00:07:23,409 also then consider these other 197 00:07:27,420 --> 00:07:25,300 strategies for communications just in 198 00:07:29,939 --> 00:07:27,430 the case of where the tethers may not be 199 00:07:32,459 --> 00:07:29,949 the most robust so these additional 200 00:07:33,930 --> 00:07:32,469 strategies will include radio frequency 201 00:07:36,390 --> 00:07:33,940 and other free space communication 202 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:36,400 techniques and we're interested in these 203 00:07:41,370 --> 00:07:39,130 also to understand how they behave and 204 00:07:44,670 --> 00:07:41,380 the different regimes within the thermal 205 00:07:46,620 --> 00:07:44,680 mechanical layering and Europa would 206 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:46,630 they potentially be most applicable when 207 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:48,370 certain regimes in the ice shell where's 208 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:49,810 the tether maybe most applicable and 209 00:07:54,209 --> 00:07:51,370 other regimes trying to really 210 00:07:56,610 --> 00:07:54,219 understand that and we will further 211 00:07:58,140 --> 00:07:56,620 explore this through modeling efforts 212 00:08:00,269 --> 00:07:58,150 just of the Europa's ice shell itself 213 00:08:02,129 --> 00:08:00,279 we're going to take into account on 214 00:08:04,559 --> 00:08:02,139 fault movements do fracture mechanics 215 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:04,569 modeling consider tidal forcing and 216 00:08:09,149 --> 00:08:06,250 thermal mechanical characteristics of 217 00:08:11,100 --> 00:08:09,159 the ice shell blitz viscosities and then 218 00:08:14,010 --> 00:08:11,110 also one interesting thing that we've 219 00:08:15,839 --> 00:08:14,020 been thinking about is as so our cry 220 00:08:17,459 --> 00:08:15,849 about you know melts its way this is a 221 00:08:19,290 --> 00:08:17,469 concept that we have is melting this way 222 00:08:21,390 --> 00:08:19,300 so your water is refreezing behind you 223 00:08:23,670 --> 00:08:21,400 sort of in this column you know is that 224 00:08:25,379 --> 00:08:23,680 refreezing ice going to be similar to 225 00:08:26,519 --> 00:08:25,389 the surrounding ice that you've just 226 00:08:28,529 --> 00:08:26,529 passed through or is it going to 227 00:08:30,420 --> 00:08:28,539 refreeze in a different way changing 228 00:08:32,279 --> 00:08:30,430 that compositional layering potentially 229 00:08:34,439 --> 00:08:32,289 and how would that then affect your 230 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:34,449 tether that's within that column of ice 231 00:08:38,909 --> 00:08:36,610 behind you that's been refrozen as well 232 00:08:41,730 --> 00:08:38,919 as the RF or you know free space 233 00:08:43,740 --> 00:08:41,740 communication repeaters that have been 234 00:08:45,180 --> 00:08:43,750 frozen and behind you as well so we're 235 00:08:47,450 --> 00:08:45,190 going to be doing further modeling to 236 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:47,460 understand that and that's going 237 00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:49,290 done by folks at John Hopkins Applied 238 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:50,880 Physics lab Southwest Research Institute 239 00:08:56,300 --> 00:08:54,330 and we have University of Southern Maine 240 00:08:57,980 --> 00:08:56,310 and we're going to be continuing just to 241 00:09:01,730 --> 00:08:57,990 explore those and try to understand 242 00:09:03,530 --> 00:09:01,740 where in Europa's ice shell can we you 243 00:09:05,090 --> 00:09:03,540 know have this strategy of communication 244 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:05,100 like where best is the tether gonna be 245 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:07,290 from you know doing the best for us with 246 00:09:11,180 --> 00:09:09,690 a higher probably data rate transfer but 247 00:09:13,490 --> 00:09:11,190 then when we need a repeater you know 248 00:09:16,190 --> 00:09:13,500 can it also be robust in certain regimes 249 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:16,200 um that we can depend on those so in 250 00:09:19,910 --> 00:09:18,210 summary our project the Europa SDI 251 00:09:21,500 --> 00:09:19,920 project is going to characterize the 252 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:21,510 deployment capability and mechanical 253 00:09:26,180 --> 00:09:23,850 strength of these multiple tethers in 254 00:09:27,710 --> 00:09:26,190 the laboratory sent us situation where 255 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:27,720 we are simulating Europa light 256 00:09:31,370 --> 00:09:30,210 conditions will do a lot of modeling to 257 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:31,380 understand the thermal mechanical 258 00:09:35,300 --> 00:09:32,970 environmental hazards that are possible 259 00:09:38,420 --> 00:09:35,310 within Europe as ice shell and on that 260 00:09:40,580 --> 00:09:38,430 kappa tote could be potential risks to 261 00:09:42,410 --> 00:09:40,590 our communication techniques and then 262 00:09:45,350 --> 00:09:42,420 we'll evaluate the system performance of 263 00:09:47,540 --> 00:09:45,360 these free space communication 264 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:47,550 strategies to further our understanding 265 00:09:51,110 --> 00:09:49,530 of where we want to employ certain 266 00:09:54,350 --> 00:09:51,120 techniques where we want to have you 267 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:54,360 know a reliability on these as we as we 268 00:09:59,030 --> 00:09:56,370 want to go down and explore your roses 269 00:10:01,190 --> 00:09:59,040 your robust ocean so I'm just like to 270 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:01,200 thank everyone for their time and thanks 271 00:10:03,710 --> 00:10:03,330 to all my colleagues um as we push 272 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:03,720 forward 273 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:05,850 onward to your row position so thank you 274 00:10:15,470 --> 00:10:13,250 so we have time for a couple questions 275 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:15,480 it just occurred to me that there's an 276 00:10:23,270 --> 00:10:17,370 experiment in Antarctica called ice cube 277 00:10:24,590 --> 00:10:23,280 they have 50 to 2.8 kilometer setups 278 00:10:27,350 --> 00:10:24,600 have you talked to them and gotten 279 00:10:28,610 --> 00:10:27,360 lessons learned from so um my colleague 280 00:10:30,260 --> 00:10:28,620 Ralph Lorenz he's kind of more the 281 00:10:31,940 --> 00:10:30,270 expert on history cuz but he definitely 282 00:10:35,180 --> 00:10:31,950 we've we've definitely are considering 283 00:10:36,530 --> 00:10:35,190 that and what they've done to build upon 284 00:10:40,820 --> 00:10:36,540 their their knowledge that they gained 285 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:40,830 there yes thank you I said a question 286 00:10:47,420 --> 00:10:45,570 about how the ice changes like either 287 00:10:50,060 --> 00:10:47,430 the radio frequency or the acoustics for 288 00:10:53,060 --> 00:10:50,070 the repeater mechanism like if you have 289 00:10:54,660 --> 00:10:53,070 to consider the geometry value sentence 290 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:54,670 how 291 00:10:59,010 --> 00:10:56,650 change your signal that kind of thing do 292 00:11:01,020 --> 00:10:59,020 you mean like one if a fault happens and 293 00:11:03,660 --> 00:11:01,030 you have a fault happens or just from 294 00:11:06,150 --> 00:11:03,670 refreezing or whatever other mechanical 295 00:11:07,740 --> 00:11:06,160 changes so I think this is these are the 296 00:11:10,020 --> 00:11:07,750 kinds of things that we'll be exploring 297 00:11:11,910 --> 00:11:10,030 like we we understand that like with 298 00:11:13,610 --> 00:11:11,920 with depth you know wrote Europa's ice 299 00:11:16,020 --> 00:11:13,620 shell is gonna change with fracture 300 00:11:17,940 --> 00:11:16,030 current you know fracture motion 301 00:11:20,550 --> 00:11:17,950 happening things are gonna and this is 302 00:11:22,020 --> 00:11:20,560 exactly what we want to explore to try 303 00:11:24,510 --> 00:11:22,030 to understand how robust are they to 304 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:24,520 these this type of activity how that 305 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:26,530 would it change our signal oh and the 306 00:11:30,150 --> 00:11:27,490 other thing I didn't mention is we 307 00:11:32,550 --> 00:11:30,160 really want to constrain the attenuation 308 00:11:33,990 --> 00:11:32,560 of the signal as it moves apart because 309 00:11:35,910 --> 00:11:34,000 you need to understand like how often 310 00:11:38,190 --> 00:11:35,920 you need to drop these these repeaters 311 00:11:40,170 --> 00:11:38,200 off behind you you know how far can your 312 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:40,180 signal transfer across if you have a